We received your e-mails and you have had great suggestions.  This page is a sample of those comments that we've received since we launched the web site on late November of 2003... both good and not so good (shown in blue).  We received hundreds of thank you emails and we only posted a few below while posting more of those who made specific suggestions. We took the liberty to make a few modifications to shorten the message and correct misspellings, but the original intent of the message was not altered.  Additionally, we've replaced words we just assume not publish for the sake of good taste.  We've not included some names to protect responders from their employers. To post your comments: Guest Book.  
 

Still in Construction ....

 
Busy Grinch [13 Nov 2004] from Kerri
Thank you for the work you are doing to maintain the list, it is of great value. I am committed to preserving Christmas in our public celebrations and your list provides good information. I believe in complaining when necessary, but I also like to reward those who have not yet eliminated Christmas with letters of thanks and encouragement. If we all do a little here and there, we can make our desires known and retailers will respond when the pressure is evident in their sales figures.
 
Defiance, OH [30 Jun 2004] from Nancy
Another one for your list is Defiance, OH. Until around the year 2000, our town had an annual "Christmas Parade", until the Chamber of Commerce Director took a new job and a new director was hired, who changed the
event name to "Holiday Parade", of course, not wanting to "offend" persons who do not celebrate Christmas. BAH HUMBUG! I'm offended! Keep up the good work!
 
VDARE [2 Jan 2004] from Kerri
I would like to call your attention to today's article on VDARE
http://www.vdare.com/ in which the Christmas discriminatory advertising policy of Fred Meyer, a large northwest grocery chain is outlined. Fred Meyer is a subsidiary of Kroger the largest grocery company in the US. The VDARE article contains a Fred Meyer email
contact.
 
Mayor Bloomberg [30 Dec 2003] from Nick
This is from the New York City home page (www.nyc.gov)
Mayor Bloomberg, Department of Parks & Recreation Commissioner Benepe, and Department of Sanitation Commissioner Doherty today announced the dates for the City's MulchFest program, which converts holiday trees into wood chips.
 
Pointless [28 Dec 2003] from Daron
this is the most pointless thing i have ever seen. how much time do you have on your hands? seriously. maybe if you worried more about celebrating your faith with like-minded people and worried less about whether you were being properly pandered to by corporations, then you would do something productive and not totally inane. what exactly is the heritage you are referring to? it
seems like you're obsessed with consumerism and commercialism, not with jesus christ or the spirit of christmas. while you may think you are a victim, you are really just whiny and bxxchy. i've never heard of a group of jews throwing a hissy-fit because stores didn't say "hannukah" everywhere. as you said, 240 million americans celebrate christmas.... so then what the hell is the problem??? should we make christmas a nationally televised event? should all stores say "we believe in christ and so do you! now go buy some pointless stuff"! really! if you had any self-respect and actually heeded jesus' teachings, you would shut the hell up and spread joy and not be driven by greed and materialism. hey, let's just officially make this a christian nation. it already is, right? and the founding fathers wanted it that way, right? let's stop the b.s., make it a christian nation, and then do all things in the name of christ. that way the hypocrisy will be that much more blatant, and we can just have a real religious war. you know, some countries do shove religion
down their people's throats... places like afghanistan, iran, and saudi arabia! get a life.
 
Pioneer Square Portland [27 Dec 2003] from Ron
We have a Holiday Tree at Pioneer Sq. in Portland OR.. same issue.. was a Christmas Tree. It was changed along with other very "liberal" changes at the same time.
 
Mobile City wants to restore Christmas Parade [27 Dec 2003]
Mobile city council wants "Christmas" name restored for parade. The Mobile City Council has a Christmas wish that apparently won't come true. 
Full article: http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/ledgerenquirer/news/local/7509344.htm
 
St. George Utah [25 Dec 2003] from Paul
I live outside of St. George, Utah.  There is a chain of "Maverick Gas Stations" in St. George and the one we patronized displayed a banner that read, "Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!"
 
No Star on New York's Tree [25 Dec 2003] from Joe
The State of New York no longer allows a star on a Christmas tree. It is considered a religious symbol of the Star of Bethlehem and therefore not allowed. So a bouquet of ribbons has replaced it on top of many Christmas trees. Yet next to it a Menorah stands. Nothing against the Jewish religious symbol but isn't this a double standard?
 
Best Buy [23 Dec 2003]
Even at the corporate headquarters, there is no evidence of joy unless the cash registers are ringing. A large sign in the commons area reads "Celebrate the Diversity of the Season" (puke). I've challenged the HR people to explain what that means and how we can celebrate anything when we can't celebrate something specific? I get the standard line about diversity and how there is more than one holiday to celebrate. I voiced my feelings of being offended by the sign but being white, male and born in the USA, my opinion doesn't seem to count.
 
Petsmart [22 Dec 2003] from Jeanne
First of all, I think this is a GREAT website and I can't tell you how much I agree with everything said in it ! I try so hard to understand people that don't celebrate Christmas, but for those of us who do...I just want to scream to people, doesn't anyone know the TRUE meaning of Christmas anymore ? It's not just another "holiday", it is a celebration of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ's birth ! So here's a great big thank you from a true believer in CHRISTMAS. Now, for the suggestion for the Grinch List....I have been in various Petsmart stores and on the website and you will find no mention (that I can find) of "Christmas" just the "Holiday Store" and "Holiday Gifts" for your pet.  I personally always buy my dog Christmas gifts as he is part of the family.  I do hope that you have time to research this one and put it on the Grinch List.
 
Newport, RI [22 Dec 2003] from Michael
First, my compliments on your website - what an eye-opener! Second, I'd like to suggest you add the town of Newport, RI, to your Grinch's Heart list - they go all-out in celebrating Christmas, as can be seen at their website (www.christmasinnewport.org). The mention of Christmas far outweighs the occurrences of holiday in the events listed, and I can tell you from several years' worth of Christmastime trips there that the events
themselves reflect this, as well. It's a rare thing to not have someone wish you a Merry Christmas while shopping their stores (rather than a bland "Happy Holidays").
 
Follow French Lead [22 Dec 2003] from John
The French are currently trying to implement a national policy of secularism. "Secularism is one of the great successes of the Republic," Chirac said in an address to the nation. "It is a crucial element of social peace and national cohesion. We cannot let it weaken." - http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,106010,00.html  In this time in American history (as well as numerous times in the past) the people find themselves at odds with the French and, what appears to be, their despise for the Americans. In the age of "Freedom" fries and "Freedom" toast, it may be time to point out that Americans are following the French lead in our push toward secularism as a national policy.
 
Boston Local TV Stations [22 Dec 2003] from Kevin
Please note that the local TV Stations in the Boston area are quick to wish our Jewish friends a Happy Chanukah but wish the generic paganized version of Christmas-"Happy Holidays" on Christmas Day or Eve. Do we buy Happy Holiday Trees? No! Are we wished a Happy Holiday on our birthdays? No! Why is it on Christ's Birthday that they call it a happy holiday? A local grocery store chain in Needham MA, "Sudbury Farms" had 24 icons for Chanukah and one for Christmas on their store windows. When I brought it to their attention their manager said "Oh-you're one of those." Merry Christmas!
 
To Local Newspaper Editor [22 Dec 2003] from William
We will be sending out Christmas Cards this year, not Holiday Cards.  The tree, brightly decorated, lighted, and positioned prominently in the front bay window of our living room, will be referred to here as the Christmas Tree. All who pass by will see its bright colors. It may make many smile. We hope so. That's why we put it there..... Do not tell me I cannot speak of it, or speak its names and words in public places. I have that Citizen's Right, recognized as a part of that often-ignored secondary phrase in the First Amendment concerning "the free exercise thereof". My "free exercise" is not calculated to offend anyone. If it does, I am sad for that; it is not my intention; but that is not sufficient reason for me to deny or euphemize who I am, or where I came from, or what I believe..... Say what you wish; do as you please; observe---or not---as you like. But do not require me to be silent. I will not be. Do not require me to speak unfocussed politically correct euphemisms. I will not. Do not require me to hide or deny Who it is we, my people, my equally valid culture, honors at this time of year. I will not.
 
State Farm Insurance [21 Dec 2003]
In the last three years State Farm has gone from giving Christmas gifts and saying Merry Christmas to Happy Everything and now this year to no reference of Christmas at all. We as employees three years ago got a Christmas gift from the company. Last year we received a Holiday gift. This year it turned into an appreciation gift that was mailed to our homes so we wouldn't have our normal Christmas gift exchange at work. Most of my fellow employees are mad about what the company is doing. We have voiced our outrage to management but they say nothing. I would love to see you add big company's to this list also. Then maybe they to would stand up and take notice as to what they are doing to the company moral by taking Christ out of Christmas and Christmas out of the work place.
 
Rite Aid [18 Dec 2003] from Chris
They are on your list, and with good reason.  While making a purchase last night at the Rite Aid on Washington Boulevard in Arlington, Virginia, the very nice young lady who took my money said, as I was leaving the check out line, "Merry Christmas!"  I was so taken aback it took me a few seconds before I returned the sentiment in precisely the same words.
 
No Merry Christmas? [18 Dec 2003] from Bernard
A couple of years ago I went to a privately owned car wash and as I was paying my bill the cashier/owner said "Happy Holiday".  To which I asked "What Holiday is that" She then solemnly answered "I wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole.  My outrage was - is it now ILLEGAL to say "Christmas"?  The implication being you would be subject to arrest or civil suit for saying "Merry Christmas!!  I believe in being civil and courteous to everyone.  Shall we not be permitted to say "Happy Veterans Day" or "Happy Independence Day" because you may be addressing non-veterans or British citizens? Or is it just Christianity we may discriminate against?
I am a senior citizen and grew up in this country where people everywhere wished one a Merry Christmas at this time of year.  It was regarded as friendly and hospitable speech and not offensive. What changed this tradition in America where my age-old traditions are now considered offensive to the point of being regarded as civil disobedience.
 
Letter to J.W. Marriott [18 Dec 2003] from Larry
Larry wrote to J.W. Marriott after received a
Seasons Greetings From J.W. Marriott, Jr.:
Thank you for your greetings.  I do wish, however, that you and many of the other business leaders around the country would stop trying to take the words Christmas out of this “holiday season.”    As a Christian, I am not offended if someone says to me Happy Hanukah or other seasonal greeting.  Why is it that your letter and all of the marketing and advertising messages this time of year refuse to say “Merry Christmas.”  Regardless of your religious beliefs, Christmas is a national holiday.  If you don’t like the holiday, then lobby Congress to have it repealed.   Until that time, I would appreciate it if your letter next year would wish me and everyone at your Company and in this great nation, a Merry Christmas.  At the very least, it could be worded to say “Happy Hanukah, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays.”  Blessings to you and your family.   Have a very Merry Christmas P.S.  You might want to check out the web site called www.grinchlist.com.  I would hate for Marriott to end up on this Grinch List, if they haven’t already.
 
A City in Arizona Still Celebrate Christmas [18 Dec 2003]
I
know you cannot respond to my email and that is just fine.  I just want to express my gratitude for your website, which I read about in US News this week.  I am glad to know that I am not alone in knowing and hating that the secularists have taken over.  I am extremely offended that even my AOL Welcome screen says "Season's Greetings".  Where can I complain?  It should say Merry Christmas. I was shopping yesterday and finally found Christmas wrapping that actually said Merry Christmas and was not scooby-doo or The Hulk trying to look 'christmas-y'.  Christians must now search for true signs of what this "holiday" truly means.  Maybe it is good for us.  It is a sure thing that I, for one, took it for granted, when growing up, we had Christmas vacation, the Christmas program, the Christmas party, Christmas cookies, cards, trees, and decorations-- and NONE of these were at the church.  They were in SCHOOL!!!!  The good old days; we thought they'd last forever. I am trying to keep it secret that the town of xxxxxx, Arizona still celebrates Christmas by lighting their downtown park and City Hall building after the school children sing carols (upwards of 400 children of all ages, mind you, not a tiny showing of interested folks!) and the Christmas story is read out of the Bible!  People show up by the thousands, so it is not really a secret.  I guess I just want it kept from the ACLU and that ilk that have robbed us.  I just want to give proper gratitude to the citizens of  xxxxxx for continuing to be true to the meaning and Spirit of Christmas!
 
Sad School Performance [17 Dec 2003] from Clelline
It was so sad to go to our nine year old granddaughter’s performance at her school.  We heard everything about Santa Clause, reindeer, and Jingle bells but not one word about the reason for the season: Jesus.   It was empty and depressing.  The children were singing about how fat Santa Clause is (not very nice in itself) and at the same time they were missing out on true life and living and being filled with joy for what wonder and awe it is to learn and realize what God truly did for us when He sent his only son to the world, born to die for us, that wonderful thrilling night!  We live in Fresno.  Both of our granddaughters (in separate schools) know it is not accepted to mention Jesus or the Bible in either of their schools.  They do not want to get in trouble for doing so.   One granddaughter is 9 and the other is 13.  The 13 year old attends Awanee, and I am not sure of the name of the school the 9 year old goes to but both schools are on 1
st street between Herndon and Shaw.  The nine year old got in serious trouble for mentioning the word “Hell” one day.   You would have thought she said the worse cuss word in the whole world by her teacher and the principal’s reactions!  They were so out of line when I met with them, in front of them both I turned to my granddaughter and as kindly as possible but truthfully told her that “Hell” is in fact a real place and there is nothing at all wrong in saying the word Hell or talking about it.  I told her it would only be wrong to tell someone you want them to go there.  It is a terrible place.
 
Yours Truly [17 Dec 2003] from Santana
hi im a 13 year old child i know that taking Christmas out of the stores is stupid leave it in if the people who moved here from other states don't like our way of celebrating Christmas then they should not have moved plz put the Christmas back in our lives.
 
Capitalism is NOT censorship [17 Dec 2003] from Gregory
On the contrary: I think it's great that capitalism thrives in America without having to bow to special interest groups such as yourselves. It's not "censorship;" it's "free market economics!"  Merry Chri$tma$!
 
LOVE YOU *** LOVE THE SITE *** LOVE THE INTENT *** KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! [17 Dec 2003] from Dave
 
Thank you [17 Dec 2003] from Judy
Just a note to say thank you for your efforts.  I have been looking for something like this to happen for some time now.  We do need to fight back.  As you grow, please know there are many of us out here willing to help.  Thanks again for your time and effort.
 
Ethel M Candy [16 Dec 2003] from Erin
Thank you for your site. I have been personally boycotting some egregious "grinches" for years. One I would really recommend adding to the Grinch List is the Ethel M candy company (
www.ethelm.com). Although you will find the word "Christmas" on their website, all of their suggested gifts are either "Winter" or "Holiday", and it has been this way for years. Also, since they are a candy company, they offer a "Spring" catalog in which they go out of their way to avoid mentioning Easter, even though some of their gifts feature bunnies and pastel eggs! I stopped shopping with them four or five years ago because as a Christian I found their complete lack of acknowledgement of Christmas and Easter disgusting.
 
Prym-Dritz [16 Dec 2003]
I work at Prym-Dritz and argued with our Communications Director (Dianne Giancola, 203-325-3286) concerning Prym-Dritz's refusal to acknowledge Christmas. Her response was that "she didn't want to offend her Jewish friends." I pointed out that a 2000 Gallup poll showed that 96% of Americans celebrate Christmas, but to no avail.
 
???? [16 Dec 2003] from Jenn
have you thought that the word christmas isn't used as much because there are other holidays happening this time of year also?  are you an anti-semitist and a racist??  Chanukkah and Kwannza fall right around Christmas -- i think your site is a tribute to the dominant Christian views that our society sees as "right".  before you chastise organizations and retailers maybe you should think about who you're leaving out by making this the Christmas season not the holiday season.
 
Food for Thought [16 Dec 2003] from Karen
I believe people have the right to believe in what they want. They should not have the right to take others beliefs away, just to satisfy themselves. That is morally wrong. America has been founded on diversity and by taking away what someone believes in is so wrong.  It is hard to put into words how I feel. I was raised in a Jewish foster home, but my foster mother (whom I consider my mother) always let me believe in my faith, never once did she try and take it away from me. I learned of their faith also, I do not condemn their beliefs.  We believe what we were sometimes taught and what we want to believe. More people should be like her, even after taking me and my siblings into her home, she let us keep our faith.  That is a true, good person who believes that you can express and believe in what you feel is right for you.
 
Lord & Taylor and Nordstrom [16 Dec 2003]
You should be aware that Lord & Taylor, formerly John Wanamaker store in Philadelphia changed their "inherited" Christmas light, music and water show to a holiday one removing any real Chrilstmas music and showing only reindeer and snowmen in their light display. On the other hand, Nordstrom in King of Prussia, Pa. had their pianist playing real Christmas music. 
 
Christmas trees shouldn't be cause for public outcry [15 Dec 2003]
Here's a little proof not all college students are crazy.
http://www.alligator.org/edit/opinion/issues/stories/031209col2.html
 
Thanks you! [15 Dec 2003] from Carole
Thank you for your site--it is refreshing!  Finally someone found a creative way to put my feelings into words! I will keep this note brief since I am sure you have thousands of e-mails to read daily.  My daughter attends a public school where the principal is Jewish.  Since I remember playing with dreidels when I was in grade school, I welcomed the chance for her to experience someone else's traditional celebrations.  The first winter my daughter was in school, the hallways were one continuous line of menorahs.  A poor mother accidentally called the "Secret Shop" the "Secret Santa Shop" and was chewed out by the powers that be.  When the principal was questioned on why there is no mention of Christmas in her school, she responded with, "They have enough of that out there!  They don't need it in here, too."  So I guess my traditions don't matter as much as someone else's! Thank you again for all that you do.  I am so sorry that people would be unkind to you rather than just get off your site.  What my mother said was true--it is easier for someone to tear down something good rather than aspire to that level.
 
For What It's Worth [15 Dec 2003] from Elizabeth
As a person who has celebrated Christmas all of her life, I was intrigued when I heard about this website. But aren't you guys going a little too far? I mean, how unfair is it of you guys to expect these stores to have different departments for every holiday category? I could only imagine the hassle of trying to make my way though the Kwanza, Ramadan and Hanukah departments to get to the Christmas department. I feel the stores have done us a favor by having all the holidays in one big department... The Holiday Section for *all* holidays. Makes sense to me. I mean, how unfair is it to expect everyone to just use and appreciate our traditions and ignore their own? If people told me I could only get my Christmas things in a Ramadan department, I'd be a little unhappy. Some of these holidays and traditions have been around longer than Christmas... Longer than Christ, actually. And now that we are finally enlightened enough to be aware and accommodating, you want to take that away? I have my Christmas tree, my Christmas wreath, my Christmas candles in the windows. I consider myself a good Christian and I go to church every Sunday (I teach Sunday school, too.) But I can't justify ignoring or suppressing other religions and their holidays because they are different than my own. I feel very blessed to live in a time and place where we all have the freedom to believe and celebrate according to our own beliefs I'm sorry if my opinion bothers or upsets any of you at Grinch List. The Grinch was a mean spirited, closed-minded old man. I hope all of you can open your minds and hearts in the end and be a little kinder to others at this special time of year.


Our response ...
Thanks for your response. However, I think you have misinterpreted our site - we will actually be adding a Q section today. But I need to clarify some of the things that you have said in error. First, our site is in response to the growing intolerance of one group while at the same time promoting other groups under the auspices of multiculturalism. In other words, marketers, public schools, company policies, etc...have gone out of their way to promote diversity - exaulting many different groups. However, they have also removed references to many mainstream groups and celebrations - most notably Christmas and Christian references. This is not debatable, it's a fact. This site is in response to the responses we have received from retailers, organizations that ostensibly support diversity, and a movement supported by the ACLU and others that have said they challenge and/or remove Christian references because it might "offend those who are not Christian." However, they do promote the other religions and cultures - a duplicitous double standard that they freely admit to. Why should anyone be offended by my beliefs?!! You mention that you don't want to walk into a store that has a department for all celebrations. Again, this is not what is happening or what we support. What is happening is that you can walk into a Macys and see a "holiday" shop that includes a section for Hanukkah, but there is no such section for Christmas. Marketers (I am one of these) repackage and brand to fit the "holiday" theme - items that target those who celebrate Christmas. Today, the left wants the word Christmas and references to Christianity banned from the public space - just read the many stories that talk about this or go to your nearest public school. You ask why should others just see our traditions promoted, but the point is that you do not see are traditions referred to. Instead you can celebrate Kwanza, Hanukkah, Ramadan, Hispanic Heritage month, etc., but nothing relative to Christian traditions. Again, this is a fact and should never be tolerated. Every week you hear about legal challenges to Christian references under the guise of the First Amendment that the ACLU and the Americans United for the Separation of Church and State challenge. We live right outside of our nations capitol, have contacts within the marketing, education, and government, areas - we know what is happening - it is part of a bigger political issue that the left has been very successful in administering - we are trying to counter that in
our own little way. Finally, we live a few miles away from counties that officially recognize Jewish holidays in public schools and force all kids to take off. This is only a few miles from DC. Christmas and Easter are not given this recognition - again within earshot of the headquarters of many of the same organizations that profess the separation of church and state. It is a double standard and it is being challenged throughout the country. We are trying to do our part.
 
From Down South [14 Dec 2003] from Karin
Please do not see this only in the light of America. We are having the same onslaught here in South Africa. Please make your circle wider and include us and many, many other people throughout the world that I know are experiencing the same. May you have strength and wisdom to carry on. God bless you.
<a follow-up on 16 Dec 2003>
Just to let you know, I did my bit today.  I went today into one of the biggest chain stores in South Africa and heard the usual type of music.  I then called for the manager and in front of the customers I asked why they were not piping Christmas music.   He was actually pleased that I objected.  I said that we had 11 months of the year to hear the usual music, but it was now Christmas, NOT A HOLIDAY SEASON, to which he seemed delighted and said that he would attend to my complaint.  About an hour later I had to go back to the store and found them piping Christmas music.  Furthermore, the couple of stores that were playing Christmas music , I, as decently as possible but as loud as I could, thanked them. Many customers looked at me while several smiled.  I said out aloud what they felt in their heart.  One lady said that she had heard quite of a bit of Christmas music in the shopping mall.  I knew she was wrong and as politely as possible I challenged her to go back into the mall and observe what I said.  Thank you for your good work.  I have passed your article to about 140 people on my mailing list and of which many of them have extensive mailing lists themselves. Please keep me in contact. God bless you.
 
Disagreement [12 Dec 2003] from Kelly
I have just recently visited your website. I am so appalled by your so called allegations. You say you stand for appreciation of multiculturalism, but the very reason that you are attacking these companies contradicts what you say you stand for. "Happy Holidays" is a politically correct phrase used by companies today because they are trying to embrace other cultures. If you were Jewish and every store you walked into said "Merry Christmas", how would you feel? Or if you celebrated Kwanza and saw the same displays? Is that not alienating people of those cultures? If you are going to "take a stand" against something, next time, shoot for something that actually matters. And not something that is going to make you look like an axx in front of the whole wide world. Have a good HOLIDAY.
 
Stand Up [12 Dec 2003]
It is about time that we stand up for our heritage especially when 95% of this country celebrates Christmas. I am from New York and it seems that Chanukah is taking over. There are religious menorahs with the star of David in Retail and Public sites with wishes of Happy Chanukah and Happy Holidays leaving Merry Christmas out.  I would like to let everybody know that Chanukah is a non religious event on the Jewish calendar and Israel does not celebrate this historical event equivalent to Christmas. Chanukah is only a historical event. Christmas is a national, religious and historical event and should never be equated with Chanukah. All holidays can be celebrated, but Christmas should not be taken away and substituted with Happy Holidays. Also when celebrating all holidays, religious symbols should not be placed in public places such as a menorah. This symbol for this holiday is the Dratel (sp?) as is the Christmas tree for Christmas (not Holiday Tree).  Keep up the good work and I will surely avoid those retail stores and other organizations on you list - Merry Christmas
 
Hate Mail [11 Dec 2003] from Joe in New York
As a member of the media ( I work for a magazine publisher in midtown Manhattan), I'd like to say:
WHO THE Fxxx CARES? This is just ANOTHER boring attempt by xtians to shove their miserable fxxxing 'religion' down the throats of the rightfully unconcerned public. Your OWN website says that 96% of Americans celebrate
xmas....and THAT isn't good enough for you? eat shit and die god boy.

I'll take the fact that you failed to address my accusation as tacit confession: <full names, address, and home phone number.>
Hmm, the company also work out of your home. And interesting that you felt compelled to change the name of your wife (mail order?) to xxx.  Is she/are you ashamed of her heritage? I'm guessing that the real story there is that you KNOW how xtians are, and that if her actual name xxxxxxxx were attached to your company,
it would drive away business.

Now, I'll take some interesting in viewing your records at the Virginia Better Business Bureau.  Give me a heads-up when you dissolve your 'company' or declare bankruptcy.

 
Lighten Up [11 Dec 2003] from Chris
You people really need to lighten up. If you actually feel offended or threatened by some ornaments or a tree being called "holiday..." instead of what the majority of people would call it, then you need to take a deep breath and pull the stick out of your axx!!!  I live in Jacksonville, FL and am sickened by the disregard shown to non-christmas celebrants. All I see anywhere, is x-mas, x-mas,x-mas. The fact that it may not always say "x-mas" doesn't bother me - I, as a mature adult, have the ability to infer what I want from "holiday" trees, decorations, etc...  The rest of you religious nuts (I'm just guessing you are!) should be able to do the same and quit wasting your time. Christmas isn't going away because of a minor name alteration, so quit bxxching about a (let's face it) pretty lame, and unimportant issue such as this.
 
Merry Christmas & Hooray to you! [11 Dec 2003] from Joanne
I can't believe there is an actual movement out there to preserve CHRISTMAS. I hope I don't get arrested for typing that word! That's what it's coming down to. As the old adage goes: Christmas is in your heart, pretty soon that's the only place it will be allowed to be!  Anyway, we too were upset about everything "holiday." What does that mean anyway? If retailers want you to shop in their stores for CHRISTMAS gifts, then they have to create a mood for that. We started our own little movement; however, I guess I did it in reverse. I contacted those places and wrote a letter enclosed in a Christmas card to a radio station that plays nothing but Christmas music from Thanksgiving all the way through to Christmas Day, thanking them for their "courage." All day long on their station you hear the word Christmas, etc.
 
Support [11 Dec 2003] from Sabra
How could it not have occurred to the merchandisers that in trying to not offend the minority customer base that they would of necessity have to offend the majority customer base who celebrate Christmas. Why has the industry not figured it out yet? Because we complacently "take it" and say nothing. I admire you taking a stand against this persecution of Christian beliefs and I wholeheartedly support this!
 
Thank You [11 Dec 2003] from Eileen
I'm SO GLAD to see this website! I got into a little tiff with MY employer 2 weeks ago when they e-mailed everybody about decorating the "holiday tree." I e-mailed back "....if you're talking about a CHRISTMAS tree, I'd like to donate an ornament in keeping with the "reason for the season." I took great pains to find a beautiful statue of the Blessed Mother holding the Christ child and i had the store make it suitable for hanging by putting a wire around it. When I returned to work after the Thanksgiving holiday, I found the statue sitting on my desk and was told that someone in Administration had deemed it "too religious."  TOO RELIGIOUS for CHRISTMAS ??????? How ironic! How comical !!!! How SAD !!!  The statue has been sitting on my desk ever since and not one of those mealy-mouth coworkers of mine has even acknowledged it.  Folks - that's the trouble with so-called "Christians." They talk a big thing but when it comes down to putting their Christian beliefs into action - especially at work - they scurry like little mice to the safety of silence. No WONDER so many people hold us in contempt. Please keep up the good work! I'm spreading the word about your movement!
 

 

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